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The following article was published on CummingHome.com on 6/25/08 THE FORSYTH COUNTY NEWS REFUSES MY
LETTERS The Forsyth County News has
informed me that it will no longer publish my “Letters to the Editor”. I was told the decision was
made at the highest levels (Dennis Stockton who is the Publisher of the
Gainesville Times and still retains oversight of the Forsyth County News). The person who called me
from the Forsyth County News would not give a reason for the decision, and
subsequent attempts to contact Dennis Stockton, asking for the reason, have
produced no response. I am a citizen who once was
a Forsyth County Commissioner. I have used the “Letter to the Editor” to
spread the facts about, and my assessment of, some county issues. I have some knowledge, both
by firsthand experience and by observation, about the unfair dealings of the
city with the county, so when the subjects of “LOST/SPLOST/Water Rates” are
addressed I take special interest. I
do not see any rational justification for the city receiving a share of county
sales taxes amounting to $2 to $6 per city resident for every $1 the county
receives per county resident. Let me back up and review
the recent events surrounding the Forsyth County News (FCN) decision to not
print my letters. (1)
I submitted a letter to the FCN on
Wednesday morning, June 11. (2)
I received a call from the FCN on
Thursday afternoon to verify that I was the letter writer, which suggested to me
that the letter would be printed in the Sunday paper (3)
The letter did not appear in the
Sunday paper (4)
Monday morning I sent an email and
called for the FCN editor asking why my letter had not been in the paper (5)
Monday evening I got a call from
the FCN saying that Dennis Stockton decided the FCN would no longer print any
letters from me. The caller would
not give me a reason for Dennis Stockton’s decision (6)
Attempts to contact Dennis Stockton
to find out the reason for his decision have produced no responses. So, I am left in the dark
about the reason(s) for the FCN action. It
seems to me that if the FCN had a factually defensible reason it would give it
to me. Since the FCN will not tell
me why, I am left to make some educated guesses. Let me first explain that
the letter I submitted to the FCN on June 11 was critical of the Cumming-Forsyth
County Chamber of Commerce for being hypocritical in their SPLOST VI
involvement. Following is content
lifted from my letter: “A Cumming-Forsyth County
Chamber of Commerce full page advertisement in the Forsyth County news on June
8, 2008, congratulated the city and four county commissioners for reaching an
agreement that gave the city $12.5 million more than county voters approved in
the February “SPLOST VI/Green Space Bond” vote.
The ad even emphasized that it was better to give the city most of that
$12.5 million anyway. Hogwash! The ad advanced the notion
that there would be serious consequences if there was a lapse in the county
SPLOST collections. A position in
which the Chamber apparently finds comfort now that it is on the side of the
mayor receiving more county funds. The
ad also boasted about the many politicians who supported the county give-away. Where were the Chamber and
the politicians when the mayor’s “VOTE NO” SPLOST committee was urging
county citizens to defeat the SPLOST VI vote and terminate SPLOST collections?
At that time the Chamber issued no public warnings, nor even publicly
supported a “yes” SPLOST VI vote.” My educated guess for the
FCN refusing to print my letters is that the FCN did not look with favor on the
content of my last letter, and perhaps some of my other past letters, for some
of the following reasons. (1)
The mayor does not like me
explaining to the public how he is taking unfair advantage of the county.
I have long felt, from my personal observations and the lack of city
criticism in the FCN, that for whatever reason (maybe pressure) the FCN is
partial to the city. I cannot
remember an article in the FCN critical of the city, while the paper seems to
seek out every negative on the county. (2)
The Chamber does not like me
pointing out its hypocrisy. Dennis
Stockton is an active Chamber participant and much of his advertising revenues
come from Chamber members. (3)
The FCN does not like letters that
are contrary to its own writings. Whatever the FCN reasons
are, it is a shame when it refuses to print legitimate citizen views for public
consideration.
The
following letter was submitted to the Forsyth County News (FCN) on June 11.
Subsequently I was informed that the FCN would not print this letter or
any of my future letters. June 10, 2008 Letter to the Editor An example of hypocrisy
right here at home. A Cumming-Forsyth County
Chamber of Commerce full page advertisement in the Forsyth County news on June
8, 2008, congratulated the city and four county commissioners for reaching an
agreement that gave the city $12.5 million more than county voters approved in
the February “SPLOST VI/Green Space Bond” vote.
The ad even emphasized that it was better to give the city most of that
$12.5 million anyway. Hogwash! The ad advanced the notion
that there would be serious consequences if there was a lapse in the county
SPLOST collections. A position in
which the Chamber apparently finds comfort now that it is on the side of the
mayor receiving more county funds. The
ad also boasted about the many politicians who supported the county give-away. Where were the Chamber and
the politicians when the mayor’s “VOTE NO” SPLOST committee was urging
county citizens to defeat the SPLOST VI vote and terminate SPLOST collections?
At that time the Chamber issued no public warnings, nor even publicly
supported a “yes” SPLOST VI vote. The city’s SPLOST VI rant
has now resulted in the city receiving about 10 percent from the county instead
of the 4.29 percent share we approved in our “SPLOST VI/Green Space Bond”
vote. I strongly believe the
county made a mistake by not appealing Judge Stone’s technicality decision in
favor of the city. That may or may
not have resulted in some delay of SPLOST VI collections.
The delay could have been as long as nine months, but it might also have
been zero or a time period of less than nine months.
Of course, a delay would also have reduced the sales tax burden on county
citizens. The city has too long
received large unfair shares of the county LOST, SPLOST and water supply
revenues. The county had an
opportunity to finally do it right and establish a new reasonable precedent for
the city’s share, but the county blew it. Ronald Seder
The
SPLOST VI give-away deed is done The deed is
done. The Forsyth County Board of
Commissioners gave the city more than twice as much of SPLOST VI than county
residents approved. Forsyth County residents
voted to give the city 4.29%, and the Board of Commissioners decided to give the
city more than 10%, which is an extra $12.5 million. The county insists that the
city is still receiving only 4.29% of SPLOST VI because the county is using
other sources of funds for the $12.5 million give-away to the city.
But, we all know that is just back door funds shuffling, which still
gives the city more than twice as much SPLOST VI funds than was authorized in
the SPLOST VI vote. We are told that giving $10
million to the city for an aquatic center is really a good deal for the county
anyway because the city is unintelligent enough to pay the operating costs.
Now, the county commission can try to convince us that the city mayor is
ignorant on this issue, but don’t you believe it.
The city can be rightfully accused of many things, but anyone who
believes the mayor is slow on the uptake is wrong. What the county has done by
giving the city the $10 million to build, own and control the aquatic center is
like me giving an acquaintance, who has wronged me many times over past years,
$30,000 to buy himself a new car because he said he would let me use it.
What an absurd idea. Those of us who were against
giving more to the city are accused of being non thinking, acting because of a
grudge against the mayor, twiddling our thumbs, preferring a legal document to
hold in our hand and other apparently condescending remarks. But
those remarks are just a means of using the long standing diversion technique of
attacking the messenger rather than the message. I am still convinced that
the county should have appealed the technicality ruling offered by Judge Stone.
That may have resulted in no delay in SPLOST VI implementation and the
county could have kept the $12.5 million for investment in its own
infrastructure. Even if there had
still been a delay, the discontinuance of huge unfair county donations to the
city would have stopped the tradition, and established a new precedent for
future Boards of Commissioners that will have to make decisions on the next
LOST/SPLOST splits and potentially costly future water purchases from the city. A valid argument is made
that if the implementation of SPLOST VI had been delayed some much needed road
projects would be delayed. That
might have happened, with the corresponding decrease of sales taxes on county
residents, but I know of no crisis that would have been caused by the delay. I know the Board of
Commissioners received a lot of political and chamber pressure to give in to the
city, but I believe it was unwise for the Board to succumb to that pressure
rather than escalate their disagreement with Judge Stone’s decision. Add this $12.5 million to
the $9 million the county gave the city a few months ago for the city to
complete its Pilgrim Mill Road project, the potentially unwarranted $15-$20
million to be given to the Taubman group to locate an upscale shopping center in
its ideal customer demographic in the highest income county in the state, and a
proposed 7.3% pay increase for the county staff in the face of declining tax
revenue increases, and pretty soon we will be talking about real money.
A
Bad SPLOST VI Deal For The County It
looks like a bad SPLOST VI deal between the city and the county is about to be
consummated. The county has offered
to give the city more than twice as many dollars (an additional $12.5 million)
than provided by the SPLOST VI ballot language that won our 70 percent approval.
Depending on actual SPLOST VI collections the ballot would have given the
city, over five years, between $9 million and $11,797,500 (4.29% of SPLOST VI).
But, now the maximum SPLOST VI collection to be realized by the city is
$24,297,500. During
the city/county SPLOST VI discussions the city never offered less than its
original $50 million demand, and because the city did not get the $50 million,
it convinced a judge to rule against the SPLOST VI implementation on a
procedural basis, although the judge found the 4.29% city share to be legal.
And, apparently that judge’s decision to stop SPLOST VI implementation
can be reversed by a signal from the city. How
can the new city SPLOST VI share be legal? We
voted for a maximum $11,797,500 share for the city. If the ballot had indicated
a $24,297,500 share for the city I would have voted against it. I
see no city needs more important than identified county needs that should cause
the county to give the city more SPLOST VI funds than the state required 4.29%
share. $10
million of the $12.5 million gift to the city is to come from the $100 million
“Recreation and Green Space” bond we also passed by a 70% vote, allowing the
spin to say the city will not really receive $12.5 million additional SPLOST VI
funds because $10 million is really coming from the “Recreation and Green
Space” bond. But, I think that is
just a subterfuge. I
also believe the Board of Commissioners broke faith with county voters on the
bond vote. We voted for a $100
million “Recreation and Green Space” bond that included $10 million for an
aquatic center. I do not believe
county voters envisioned that the $10 million would be donated to the city for
the city to build, own and control an aquatic center on Pilgrim Mill Road. An
argument is made that we will lose several months of SPLOST VI funds if we do
not make this deal with the city. Maybe,
but why would the city be so anxious to also forgo several months of SPLOST VI
money? Of course, if SPLOST VI
collections were delayed for several months the 1% tax burden on Forsyth County
citizens would also be removed for that same period of time.
We do need the projects identified for SPLOST VI, but there would be no
crisis caused by the delay. I
am disappointed that the Board of Commissioners made a political rather than a
principled decision on this issue. Decisions
in dealings with the city similar to this one over the past 20 years have cost
the county maybe $50 million, and this decision fails to break the precedent for
similar county losses over the next 20 years.
Letter in Forsyth County News 5/11/08 Well,
now we have an interesting SPLOST VI development for Forsyth County. The
city is not satisfied with a population share of SPLOST VI. The city demanded
$50 million. The county offered the city 10 percent of SPLOST VI and the city
turned it down. Before the vote, the city never made an offer other than its
original $50 million. When
the county decided, as allowed by law, that the city should get its population
share (4.29 percent based on the 2000 census) the city determined that it wanted
a parking deck put on the ballot (one of the projects identified in the city's
original $50 million demand) even though the 4.29 percent share was projected to
produce fewer funds than the city had envisioned for the parking deck. The
city was unhappy because it would no longer receive an unreasonable share of
SPLOST, and worked to defeat the SPLOST VI vote. Almost
70 percent of Forsyth County voters voted for SPLOST VI. The
city sued to stop SPLOST VI implementation and the judge agreed. Superior
Court Judge Stone interpreted the state SPLOST rules to require that all the
demanded city projects should have been listed on the ballot, although most of
them were not funded by SPLOST VI. Judge
Stone's rules interpretation also determined that the county should have
identified its specific SPLOST VI projects earlier in the process. Therefore,
the judge stopped SPLOST VI implementation on his interpretation of the rules,
not on the legality of the 4.29 percent split. To
me this is just another case of the city's pettiness. The city was unable to
convince the board of commissioners to give the city an unjustified large share
of SPLOST VI. The city took the case to court, and now the city's lawsuit may
punish county citizens by delaying or denying them the benefits of SPLOST VI
projects. I
hope the board of commissioners stands firm on a fair SPLOST population share
for the city. Ronald
Seder
Gainesville
SPLOST VI VOTE RESULTS This is just a quick report on the SPLOST vote earlier this month. SPLOST VI passed overwhelmingly with about 70% of the voters voting in favor of it.
Response
to the article titled: “Vote NO Committee Responds to Opinion Article” The following article was published on cumminghome.com 2/2/08 Former
Commissioner Responds to Opinion Article The
article deserves response because there are statements in it that are misleading
or just plain wrong. The claim
is that the “Vote No Committee” (committee) is not a Mayor Ford
Gravitt Committee. However, the
mayor initiated the committee, recruited committee members and instructed his
city council to recruit committee members.
The readers can look at these facts and use their own judgment as to
whether or not this is a Mayor Ford Gravitt committee. The
article states: “as was inaccurately pointed out, the committee has not
made an issue of the SPLOST split at any time.”
That is just not true. The
committee website had a statement on it last week that said: “the proposed
split of the money with the City of Cumming is unjust.
While the city generates over 20% of the revenue, the county wants to cut
their share of funds to 4.29%.” That
committee website statement fails to recognize that that city residents pay only
4% of the SPLOST paid by all county residents.
And, I think because the author is a member of the committee we might
also doubt his article statement: “At this time, I am not involved with the disagreement
regarding division of SPLOST money so I will not address those comments at this
time.” The
article states: “Taxes
will go up if we approve SPLOST VI and its related $160 million bond if we
cannot go back to the table and include other projects that are badly needed.”
That is a misleading statement. Property
taxes will go up and/or necessary county projects will not be done if SPLOST VI
is voted down. The article states: “We need to find a way to
include a jail and courthouse in SPLOST funding.”
This is like trying to put ten pounds of sugar in a five pound bag.
The county has many more needs than a 1% SPLOST can pay for.
The county’s Capital Needs Review (on the web at
http://www.forsythco.com/, click on SPLOST VI,
then click on Capital Needs Review) last year identified $697.5 million
dollars of Forsyth County capital needs. The most optimistic forecast for SPLOST
VI revenue is $275 million. Therefore
the county had to prioritize and include only the projects in SPLOST VI that
most deserved to be there. The article states: “Defeating the renewal of SPLOST VI
for 12 months will not create an unbearable burden.
Sometimes we have to face small burdens”. Delaying SPLOST VI for one year will reduce the county’s
revenue by $30+ million. That is
not a small burden, and there is no legitimate reason for a delay. The article says: “SPLOST VI was not created to respect
the citizens”. This is a
bogus assertion. The county board
of commissioners produced a “Capital Needs Review” last year from which a
citizens committee helped the board of commissioners prioritize the projects to
be included in SPLOST VI. That is a
thoughtfully and respectfully produced list of SPLOST VI projects. The article states: “Regarding SPLOST 5 projects, I too
want everyone to get the list from the county website.” The committee
continues to assert that SPLOST V was mismanaged by the board of commissioners.
I just don’t agree. I
think the board of commissioners has done a decent job of managing SPLOST V
projects. Status of the SPLOST V
projects is on the county website at http://www.forsythco.com/,
click on SPLOST VI, then click on SPLOST V Update. A county commissioner explained that most, but not all SPLOST V projects are
completed or will be completed soon. He
said: “the
county did not receive $.75 on the dollar for every dollar of road costs as we
were promised in 2003 - only $.15 on the dollar. Plus, construction costs
ballooned in the past 5 years including right-of-way costs. Still, we have
completed 70% of all road projects with the $.60 per dollar state deficit, and
an 11% expected reduction in SPLOST revenues. Add to that, we have another 10%
of planned projects either under construction today, or expected to have the
state contracts let in February of 2008. We
have completed all but three parks and rec projects, but two of those are the
city's responsibility, not ours. We have completed all but two of our public
safety projects, and have acquired land for one (Fire Station 7), and hope to
have land for the other (Fire Station 6) shortly. Senior Center expansion is
completed. Cumming Library expansion is completed. Hampton Library is ready to
be built.” The article
states: “I propose we empower a citizens committee to be deeply
involved with recreating SPLOST VI and that the committee remains in place to
monitor SPLOST money management and monitor projects”. I think this is a bad idea.
We already elect a citizens committee called the board of commissioners.
Who would appoint the suggested citizens committee?
Special interest groups? City
politicians? Another county wide election to elect a “super board of
commissioners”? We elect our
commissioners on a countywide basis and if a majority of citizens do not like a
commissioner’s performance they can vote the commissioner out of office. As you can see, there are a lot of things incorrect or
misleading in the referenced article. It
is important that we not let the demagoguery of the committee influence our
vote. A YES vote for SPLOST VI is best for Forsyth
County Citizens.
The following
letter was published in the Forsyth County News on January 27, 2008 SPLOST
VI should be approved by the county Forsyth
County voters are being asked on the February 5 ballot to extend the 1 percent
SPLOST tax for another five years. I
recommend a yes vote for this tax extension called SPLOST VI. We
all know that Forsyth County has had fast paced growth that requires county
infrastructure expenditures to maintain a quality of life desired by most county
residents. SPLOST VI allows sales
taxes paid by county and non-county residents to reduce the burden applied to
property taxes. The
county has done an admirable job of identifying projects to be included in
SPLOST VI by having a professional capital plan produced and using a citizens
committee to prioritize the transportation projects from that plan for inclusion
in SPLOST VI. Numerous details of
SPLOST VI expenditures have been displayed in the Atlanta Journal Constitution,
the Forsyth County News, and with supporting material on the county’s website
(www.forsythco.com, click on SPLOST VI). The
City of Cumming is fighting the SPLOST VI extension because the county finally
has three county commissioners who refuse to give the city a huge unfair share
of SPLOST VI, as has been done in past SPLOSTs. The city’s share of SPLOST VI is fairly and logically based
on the city’s population percentage of the county’s population. The
city challenged SPLOST VI in court and lost.
The city has formed a committee to fight SPLOST VI, which is now trying
to mislead the public into voting against it.
The city is challenging the SPLOST VI wording on the February 5 ballot,
which, although not exactly the same as the wording of SPLOST V when it passed
unchallenged by the city, contains essentially the same information and detail. The
city had none of these concerns when it thought it might again receive an
unconscionable unfair share of SPLOST VI. These
challenges only arose because the city did not have its way with the county this
time around. The
best interests of county citizens will be served if SPLOST VI is passed. Ronald Seder
THE
“VOTE NO TO SPLOST” COMMITTEE The City has organized the “Vote No To SPLOST”
Committee. The committee has made
several negative assertions about SPLOST VI, but the committee has not
challenged the need for the totality of projects the county has identified for
SPLOST VI. Let’s review some of the misleading statements on the Committee Website (website assertions are bold and underlined). The committee recommends that you vote NO to SPLOST VI and Bond and not raise our taxes Do not allow the committee to combine the two and confuse the vote. "SPLOST VI" and the "Park, Recreation and Green Space Bond" are two separate votes on the February 5 ballot. SPLOST VI is an extension of the current SPLOST, and
therefore will not raise our taxes. A
defeat of SPLOST VI will increase property taxes because the defeat would
eliminate SPLOST revenue for needed projects. The “Park, Recreation and Green Space Bond” will raise
property taxes. The committee is not just for the
benefit of the City of Cumming. It
is for everyone in Cumming/Forsyth County.
Will not create a city vs. county campaign. The Committee would not have been organized without city
leadership and push. A cochairman
of the committee works for the City. The
city had no issues with SPLOST VI until the city discovered that the county
commission was only going to give the city the SPLOST VI share it deserved
(percentage of SPLOST VI matching the city’s portion of the county
population). SPLOST VI fails to respect the citizens. I think it respects the citizens very well because projects
have been thoughtfully selected to satisfy the most pressing citizen needs. The ballot is written in such a way it
can mislead the voter. I think the ballot could have been better written to weaken
opponent demagoguery of it. The
$160,000,000 bond, to be repaid with SPLOST VI revenues, allows the county to
borrow money to speed up the implementation of SPLOST VI projects without a tax
increase. The ballot intent is clear to almost all voters.
There is absolutely no reason to believe that a majority of the county
commissioners is trying to deceive county citizens. The County Rushed to put SPLOST VI on
the February 5 ballot. What rush? The
county prepared for the SPLOST VI extension proposal for several months during
2007. As early as March 30, 2007,
Mayor Gravitt talked about the upcoming SPLOST (SPLOST VI) considerations in a
speech at a Chamber Breakfast. Projects have not been adequately
identified. The county commission has carefully and thoughtfully
identified SPLOST VI projects with professional and citizen group assistance. Details of SPLOST VI projects have been published in the
Atlanta Journal Constitution, the Forsyth County News, and with supporting
documentation on the county website at http://www.forsythco.com/DeptPage.asp?DeptID=6&PageID=1003. Past projects are not complete but the
money is gone. Where did it go? A detailed SPLOST V project status has been published in
the Atlanta Journal Constitution in an article titled, “How Forsyth spent the last SPLOST”, on
the web at http://www.ajc.com/search/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2008/01/27/forsythtax0127ns.html,
and on the Forsyth County website at http://www.forsythco.com/DeptPage.asp?DeptID=6&PageID=1003,
click on SPLOST V Update. The county has an accounting of the use of, and continuing plans for, SPLOST V funds for SPLOST V projects.
The committee says that the city deserves more of the
SPLOST VI funds because 20 percent of the tax is generated in the city, but even
if the 20 percent claim is factual it fails to recognize that city residents pay
only 4 percent of the total SPLOST paid by county residents. It appears that the committee (city) is trying to convey
the idea that county commissioners who voted for SPLOST VI are secretive and not
to be trusted. I think the real
evidence shows just the opposite. One
indication of this can be seen in a comparison of the county website to the city
website. There is much greater
information openness on the county website including detailed project status
reports and detailed financial reports. There
is no display of this information on the city website. You may also want to review County Commissioner David
Richard’s 1/25/2008 response to the “Vote No To SPLOST” Committee comments
on his website at http://www.davidrichard.info/id3.html.
HUH? The absurd conclusion of the Cumming Mayor, reported by the
Forsyth County News, is that if the county voters pass the next SPLOST
extension, property taxes may go up. Huh?
Obviously, sales tax revenues reduce the need for more property taxes. The mayor should know that.
Cumming has had no city property tax because the city has been receiving
such a large unfair portion of the SPLOST and the LOST, not because of
efficiency in city government. The mayor is determined to defeat the next round of SPLOST
because the county refused to give him an unconscionably large share of the
sales tax again. This small town
mayor should not be allowed to be bigger than life.
Those days have passed and we now finally have three county commissioners
who are insisting on fairness in the split of the SPLOST between the city and
the county. The SPLOST allows those who visit our county to help pay for some of our needed infrastructure improvements, which reduces the burden of county residents paying for all of it through property taxes.
The following letter to the editor appeared in the Forsyth County News on November 11, 2007. Commissioners finally
stand their ground At last, a majority of three Forsyth County
Commissioners produced a fair split of the Special Purpose Local Option Sales
Tax (SPLOST) between the city and the county. For
the first time ever, Forsyth County voters will vote on an extension of the
SPLOST based on the city and county population proportions.
Commissioners David Richard, Jim Harrell and Charlie Laughinghouse
produced a final vote on October 30, which gave the city 4.3 percent and the
county 95.7 percent based on the 2000 census population percentage. Thank
you Commissioners Richard, Harrell and Laughinghouse. The
city has been receiving 15 or 20 percent of the SPLOST, depending on what is
included, and that is three to four times the city’s population percentage.
This is the first time we have had a majority on the Board of
Commissioners who fairly protected the county’s interests in a sales tax
negotiation with the city. The
city still receives an unfair 15 percent of the Local Option Sales Tax (LOST),
and that will not be renegotiated again until 2012. But for now I am grateful that we currently have three
commissioners who did the right thing for all of us whether inside or outside
the city limits. Ronald
Seder
A Fair SPLOST Split!!! On October 30, 2007, for the first time ever, there was a
majority on the Forsyth County Board of Commissioners who protected the
county’s interest and produced a fair split of the next Special Purpose Local
Option Sales Tax (SPLOST) with the City of Cumming. Commissioners Richard, Harrell and Laughinghouse voted to
give the city its population share (4.29%) of the next SPLOST. Currently, Cumming receives 15% of both the SPLOST and the
LOST (Local Option Sales Tax). Based
on the 2000 census that is 3.5 times more than its deserved population share.
I can find no other city in Georgia that comes anywhere close to that
ridiculous multiplier. You might ask, how did the county ever agree to give the
city 15% of the sales taxes? It boils down to what I think are unscrupulous
tactics of the Cumming Mayor. I have never seen the mayor negotiate anything in
good faith with the county. In my
view the mayor’s tactics have always been to demand, intimidate or blackmail
the county into submission. The current 15% of the LOST and the SPLOST can be
traced back to the 1995 LOST negotiation when the mayor told the county that if
the county did not agree to give the city 15% of the LOST and 15% of the next
SPLOST the city would allow the LOST to be discontinued. You see, there is a
provision in the LOST legislation that discontinues the LOST if the city and
county cannot agree on how to split it. Losing
the LOST, of course, would cause an increase in property taxes.
The County Commission voted 3 to 2 to give the city the 15%. Not
unexpectedly, the mayor is now using a tactic he did not have to use before.
He is suing the county because the county did not give in to his
unconscionable demands this time. I suspect he really has no legal basis
for the suit, but expects to get something, out of court, to suspend the
legal harassment and expenses of the county, which could go on for a long time. In
my opinion this is just another action by the mayor that is in character
with his past bullying techniques.
DO I EVER HAVE A DEAL FOR
YOU??? Commissioner Brian Tam has figured out a
way for the city to receive more than twice its population share from the next
SPLOST. It’s simple; make the
SPLOST collection for the next six years instead of five, and more than double
the percentage for the city at an additional $12 million cost to the county. Apparently Commissioner Tam’s rationale
is that the county could also receive more because the total SPLOST would be six
years worth rather than five. According to the Forsyth County News,
Commissioner Tam said the county receiving 95.7% (the population share) over
five years would not give the county as much money as receiving 91% over six
years. Well duh! So,
the idea is for the county to give the city 9% of the next SPLOST at a cost to
the county of $12 million to avoid giving Forsyth County citizens the
opportunity to vote on another SPLOST extension in five years.
Why, because the voters may not want a SPLOST extension in 5 years?
If voters do not want a SPLOST extension in 5 years wouldn’t that mean
that voting to accept a six-year SPLOST now is a mistake? Does this make sense to anyone other than Commissioner Tam and the City of Cumming political leaders?
FORSYTH
COUNTY AND CUMMING CITY TAXES The city says its daily population is greater than its
nighttime population, as being a reason for the city to get a larger share of
the Local Option Sales Tax (LOST) and Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax
(SPLOST). If that is true I think
the city should put a property tax on their businesses because they are the
cause of the increased city daytime population. If the city wants a fairgrounds, Mary Alice Park Commercial
development, aquatic center, City Hall with an unused floor of space, increases
in sewer service, annexation of shopping centers into the city, widening roads
with less traffic than some county roads with greater needs, a playhouse, etc.,
the city should collect the money required over and above a population split of
the sales taxes from city businesses and citizens. I suspect if the city was not getting ”free” money from
the county the city residents would not tolerate all the city spending. The Mayor says county people use city roads (much of that
road use in the City is on state roads, i.e. GA 9 and GA 20) as a justification
for a greater share of the sales taxes. Does
that mean that because people from outside the County use County roads the state
should give some of its sales tax to the County? The county provides some services to city residents that
the city does not provide, Superior Courts, Fire Protection Service, Library
system County Jail, Senior Center, etc. The city brags about having no property taxes.
How can the city do that, they may even spend more money per resident
than the county does? They can do that because they are receiving a huge
unjustified share of the sales taxes. Why
shouldn’t city residents and businesses pay city property taxes rather than
the county paying for city services? City
folks presumably get special or better breaks and services by being part of a
chartered city. The city brags about its low price of water to its water
customers, especially those inside the city limits. This too, they could not do if the county was not purchasing
a lot of water from the city at unjustifiably high wholesale water prices, and
giving the city a more than deserved sales tax share. The city says it needs a larger share of the sales taxes
because a larger percentage of retail businesses are in the city.
If these businesses are such a burden to the city why did the city annex
some shopping centers into the city? Also,
why do shopping centers want to be annexed into the city? The Forsyth County News says consider that a
disproportional share of the sales tax is collected inside the city.
Why not rather consider that the county residents outside the city pay a
disproportional of the sales tax? According
to the 2000 census, median family income inside the city was $47,370 and median
family income in the county was $74,003. City
per capita income was $16445 and county per capita income was 29,114. If county citizens want an aquatic center why not keep the
funds in the county and have it built and controlled by the county rather than
by the city? If county citizens need more parks why give money to the
city to build a city park that is mostly for non-city county folks (Mayor said
that only 3% of the current city park usage is by city residents)?
The county should satisfy its expenditures on, and keep control of, parks
for its growing county park it needs. In a presentation I saw last Saturday City Councilman
Rupert Sexton said the county pays the city $.03 per 1000 gallons impoundment
fee to the city for its water – everything else is profit to the county except
for reading the meters. Obviously
this is just another untrue statement by city leaders.
There is a lot more cost to taking in raw water, treating it and delivering it
to the end user than just reading meters. Does the city pay a $.03
per 1000 gallons impoundment fee to the Corps? Councilman Sexton also said, in response to an audience
comment about the Mary Alice Park project moving fast, and the lack of public
participation in and exposure to the Mary Alice Park project, that the only city
involvement in the Great Wolf project is handling the lease. He said public participation is the responsibility of the
Corps of Engineers. He denied that the City courted Great Wolf for the project.
Of course, having Mary Alice Park surrounded by non-city county residents
might cause the city to be less responsive to these non-city voters. Based on the county 2007 budget I estimate the city will receive about $2,000 per resident while the county will receive about $400 per resident from the combination of the LOST and SPLOST. There is no logical justification for this. In a fantasy where the county would receive $2000 per county resident the county would receive $300 million this year, which would allow the county to eliminate property taxes, build a new jail and courthouse, accomplish its SPLOST projects and have millions of dollars to put aside for future operations and capital costs. Also, I find it interesting that if the city population was 20% of county population, and the city received $2000 per resident, 100% of the LOST and SPLOST would be required to do that, leaving nothing for the county.
THE CITY HAS GOTTEN RICH OFF THE COUNTY My
April 15, 2007, letter in the Forsyth County News explained that the City of
Cumming receives five times more LOST (Local Option Sales Tax) and five times
more SPLOST (Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax) per resident than Forsyth
County receives. Currently
the city gets 15% of the LOST and SPLOST and the county gets 85%.
The city has only 3% of the county population based on an estimated
population of 5,000 in the city and 150,000 in the county. The
April 15 letter also pointed out that if the county received as much outside
funding per resident as the city gets from county sales taxes the county would
be able to eliminate property taxes, have an annual $100 million revenue surplus
in its General fund, build a jail and courthouse without bond debt, and have
several hundred million dollars for other infrastructure investments. Of
course, this really is fantasy because the state or federal governments would
think the county to be wacky if the county asked them for that kind of financial
support. Obviously,
the city portion of the sales taxes is hugely unreasonable and unfair, and begs
the question – how did this unjust distribution of county taxes come about?
There are two main reasons. First,
there was a flaw in the LOST legislation. Second,
the county has had a majority of county commissioners who voted to give the city
much more than was reasonable. When
I ran for office in 1992 the city was receiving 12% of the LOST based on the
city’s population percentage in 1970 census, which was the most recent census
when the LOST was first implemented in the late 1970s.
However, the 1990 census showed the city to be 6% of the county
population, and that percentage was expected to decrease as the county continued
to grow. The
sales tax split disparity was one of my focus points during the election
campaign of 1992, even though there was no provision in the LOST legislation at
that time to renegotiate the split. During
the early 1990s the LOST legislation was changed to force a renegotiation by
1995 and in succeeding decades during the second year after the census (2002,
2012, etc.) Renegotiation
under the updated legislation had a serious handicap. The legislation allowed a city in a one-city county like
Forsyth to refuse to agree to a fair split of the LOST and cause the LOST to be
eliminated for both the city and county. This
gave the city some extortion powers, which it flaunted.
The city demanded an unconscionable 25% of the LOST. There
was a provision in the legislation that allowed non-binding third party
arbitration of the LOST distribution. The
county pressed for this arbitration and the Superior Court appointed an
arbitrator. A
peculiar thing happened on the way to the first arbitration meeting.
The night before the first scheduled arbitration meeting a county
commissioner called for an emergency Board of Commissioners (BOC) meeting to be
held one hour before the scheduled next day arbitration meeting.
As it turned out, the purpose of the meeting was to allow three of the
five county commissioners to pass a motion to give the city 15% of the LOST and
15% of the next SPLOST. That county
action eliminated the need for the arbitration meeting. I
am convinced that tying the next SPLOST split to the 1995 LOST split was done
because the SPLOST legislation did not contain the extortion flaw of the LOST
legislation. Why
was this BOC vote forced one hour before the meeting with the court appointed
arbitrator? My conclusion is that
the city and three county commissioners did not want the real facts exposed to
the public by fair and unbiased arbitration.
Subsequent BOCs have also had a majority of commissioners who gave the
city the ridiculous 15% share. The
LOST and SPLOST split have allowed the city to build and operate a fairgrounds,
a sky ride, a race track, a theatre and restaurant, accumulate money for a swim
center, accumulate funds for a sewer plant expansion, rejuvenate an old hotel,
produce grand and potentially expensive plans for Mary Alice Park, widen roads carrying minimal traffic compared to busier county roads, etc. These
city expenditures have been going on while the county has raised its property
tax millage rate (even with a rapidly growing tax digest), cannot build a needed
new courthouse and jail without full indebtedness, has not eased some serious
road and intersection traffic problems, and without investment in other needed
infrastructure improvements. The
Mayor of Cumming says one of the reasons the city needs a large share of the
sales taxes is that the city does not have a property tax or impact fees to pay
for city expenditures. Well
“duh”, if the city is determined to spend the money it should impose a
property tax and impact fees, as the county does.
It just does not make sense that the county should pay for things the
city leaders, elected by only 3% of county residents, unilaterally decide to do. The
city has too long been receiving an outrageous share of the county sales taxes.
For fairness and to help limit taxes on county residents the distribution
of the SPLOST and the LOST between the city and county needs to be corrected. I think the best method of proportioning the sales taxes between the city and county is to base it on city and county population percentages.
The following
letter was published in the Forsyth County News on April 15, 2007. City’s
share of tax is unreasonable A March 30, 2007 Forsyth County News article reported on a
speech by Cumming Mayor Ford Gravitt to a Chamber breakfast.
Mayor Gravitt expressed concern that the city may not get as large a
share of the next SPLOST (Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax) as it has
historically. Currently the city receives 15% of the SPLOST and the
county receives 85%. The city has
only 3% of the county population based on an estimated population of 5,000 in
the City and 150,000 in the County. The city also receives 15% of the LOST (Local Option Sales
Tax), and based on the 2007 county Budget the county will receive approximately
$190 per county resident and the city will receive approximately $1000 per City
resident. That split applies to
both the LOST and the SPLOST, so the combination of the two gives the county
approximately $380 per county resident while the city realizes a whopping $2000
per city resident. Obviously, the city receiving five times more tax dollars
per person is unreasonable. To emphasize the absurdity of city’s tax share, let’s
pretend the county also got $2,000 per year per county resident from some
outside source. The county would be
able to eliminate property taxes, have an annual $100 million revenue surplus in
its general fund, build a jail and courthouse without bond debt and have several
hundred million dollars for other infrastructure investments. Of course, this really is fantasy because the state or
federal governments would think the county to be wacky if the county asked them
for that kind of financial support. The next SPLOST split negotiation is coming up soon and I
think the city’s share should be similar to its population percentage. The LOST split should also be based on population
percentages, but that does not come up for renegotiation again until 2012. The Board of Commissioners needs to make sure the county
receives its rightful share of the taxes to support its growing need for
operating and capital funds. Ronald E. Seder
FORSYTH COUNTY SHOULD
RECEIVE A FAIR SHARE OF THE COUNTY SALES TAXES Forsyth County gives Cumming three to four times more of
the County Sales Tax revenues than the City deserves. That amounted to a County overpayment to the City of
something like $24 million during the past seven years, and if continued, would
probably be about $60 million during the next ten years. LOST (Local Option Sales Tax) and SPLOST (Special Purpose
Local Option Sales Tax) are each 1% of the 7% sales tax levied in Forsyth
County. From the Association of County Commissioners of Georgia
information, on the web at http://www.accg.org/lost/lost2.asp?countyid=58&countyname=Forsyth,
we learn some interesting facts about the LOST distribution between the City of
Cumming and Forsyth County for the year 2000.
The above information shows that Cumming realized about $2
million more LOST revenue in 2000 than its population percentage deserves.
I estimate that by the end of 2002 Cumming will have received an
underserved $12 million during the seven years of the current 15/85% LOST split,
and almost that same $12 million amount in the split of the SPLOST.
That is $24 million Forsyth County should have kept for its own growing
needs. Negotiations between Cumming and Forsyth County this year
will determine the LOST split percentage for the next ten years.
I conclude that If the County and City continue their growth patterns for
the next ten years, and Cumming continues to receive 15% of the LOST, Cumming
will get about $30 million more LOST revenues than would be allowed if based on
Cumming’s population percentage. I have been told that, even though the law does not require
it, the percentages established this year for the next ten years of the LOST
will also apply to the SPLOST. Assuming
the County Voters continue to vote extensions of the SPLOST, and Cumming
continues to receive 15% of the SPLOST, the City would receive another $30
million more than its population percentage would support. That would mean a total County LOST and SPLOST overpayment
to Cumming during the next 10 years of about $60 million. The overpayment of $24 million during the past seven years,
and an overpayment of $60 million during the next 10 years, would provide a lot
of improvements needed in our growing County, and those improvements could be
accomplished without forcing Forsyth County property owners to increase their
property tax payments for additional County bonding and increasing operating
costs. I am sure we will hear rationales from Cumming trying to
justify a LOST and SPLOST share greater than Cumming’s population proportion.
For the most part these rationales are the result of a conclusion looking
for a rationale to support it. When
the current 15/85% split was determined, it was done because politics allowed it
to be done, regardless of what was fair. It is interesting to note that the six cities in Hall
County contained 22.76% of the total County population and received 24.5% of the
LOST in 2000, and the ten cities in Fulton County contained 75.67% of the County
population and received 65.02% of the LOST in 2000. There is no logical reason for the City of Cumming to receive
such a disproportionately larger share than these cities in Hall and Fulton
counties. There should be a fair split, based on population proportions, of the LOST and SPLOST between Cumming and Forsyth County. If you feel as I do, please express your views to your Forsyth County Commissioners
FORSYTH COUNTY SPLOST Is there a conspiracy to mislead Forsyth County citizens and thereby swing the majority to vote for the SPLOST? Who is providing the tens of thousands of dollars for TV, newspaper and mail advertising, and citizen surveys? Is it the average citizen or is it those who have the most to gain financially from the tax. Doesn't the sales tax, as opposed to other sources of revenue, shift more of the tax burden away from businesses and large landowners/speculators to average citizens? Wouldn't Forsyth County businesses, developers and large landowners/speculators realize the most financial gain from the SPLOST? Why do we have to approve $100 million in one big chunk? That is the only option the voters have been offered. Do we feel comfortable giving $100 million to any Board of Commissioners for a potpourri of projects, let alone this Board of Commissioners with the record they have produced during their first year of existence?We are told that Non-Forsyth County residents pay 40% to 60% of the sales tax. Does it make sense to you from your personal observations that nonresidents spend even $.40 in Forsyth County for every $.60 spent by residents. Remember sales tax on cars etc. go to the county of residence regardless of where purchased. My assessment of the quantitative analysis that is supposed to prove the 40% share shows the quantification is wrong. My quantified analysis and judgment convince me that the amount paid by nonresidents would not exceed 20%. Many would rather have a sales tax, which does shift more of the tax burden to the average citizen. However, it is not free. It may be easier to sell to the voters because it is only a few pennies at a time and is not as apparent as a tax bill once a year. And, because of that lack of visibility it also allows elected officials to raise taxes and not concentrate as much on cost control. However, we must all realize the sales tax is real money and it reduces the taxpayer's purchasing power. We are being told in the two page newspaper advertisements that a huge immediate increase in the ad valorem tax is the only alternative to passing this proposed SPLOST. I object to this misleading presentation. Government bonds and revenue bonds are time-tested methods of financing, which decrease the immediate burden on taxpayers by spreading lower payments over a longer period. Those realizing the benefit of the SPLOST investments then pay off the bonds over time. The money to pay off the bonds can come from a growing County ad valorem tax base, tighter control of other County expenditures, revenues from services provided, future fair SPLOSTs, additional ad valorem taxes etc. The City of Cumming is to receive 15% ($15,000,000) from this SPLOST. The City of Cumming has only 5% of the County's population. There is no legal requirement for the City of Cumming to receive any portion of this SPLOST. The City already gets more than a fair share of other sales taxes and more than justified for the water it sells to the County. As we continue to compound our errors in this regard, the City has to invent more ways to spend the money. Although the City has a budget that spends three times more dollars per resident than the County, the City imposes no ad valorem tax. And, our local newspaper will not publish letters to the editor from citizens in the newspapers during the week prior to the SPLOST vote. However, news articles and advertisements supporting the SPLOST are allowed. Does this indicate the newspaper has a bias towards the money interests supporting the SPLOST? The average citizen does not influence or buy much newspaper advertising. The voters have received a lopsided presentation in favor of the sales tax. As in the election of candidates for local office, the average citizen just does not get nearly as involved as those who have the most to gain financially from the vote, and as long as that situation continues the average citizen will pay the price.
15% OF THE COUNTY SALES TAX FOR CUMMING?(Ron Seder 12/14/97)
Forsyth County citizens are being asked to vote on another round of the 1% Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax (SPLOST) in March of 1998. The Cumming City Council and the Forsyth County Board of Commissioners have agreed on a split of that tax of 15% for the City and 85% for the County.
Unfair ShareThe City of Cumming currently has about 5% of the population of Forsyth County. Why should the City get 15% of the Sales Tax? I don't think the split can be explained in legitimate, rational and objective terms. According the the December 7, 1997 Forsyth County News, that 15% City share will amount to fifteen million dollars ($15,000,000). If the City was to receive a more appropriate 5% of the Sales Tax the County would have another $10,000,000 to provide much needed infrastructure improvements, such as roads, water supply, sewers, etc. LOST and SPLOST BackgroundA little history may help put this situation in perspective. The standard 1% Forsyth County Local Option Sales Tax (LOST) was established in the late 1970's (LOST is 1% of our sales taxes and SPLOST is another 1% of our sales taxes). The LOST was enacted to roll back property taxes and was split between the City and the County based on the 1970 census proportions. The 1970 census showed that Cumming contained 12% of Forsyth County's population (City of Cumming 2,031, Forsyth County 16,928). Therefore, the LOST was split 12% for Cumming and 88% for Forsyth County. Population ShiftA new law required renegotiation of the standard Local Option Sales Tax (LOST) split in 1995. The law also required the City and County to agree on a new split of the LOST or the tax would be stopped. The 1990 census showed the City of Cumming to have 6.4% of Forsyth County's population (City of Cumming 2,828, Forsyth County 44,083). During 1995, the City initially demanded 25% share of the LOST, and by threatening to allow the tax to expire, caused the Forsyth County Board of Commissioners, with a split vote, to settle for a City 15% share of the LOST and a 15% share of the next SPLOST, which is now being collected. This 15% share means the City receives $3 per City resident for every $1 received by the County per County resident. Again, I do not believe the 15% can be supported by legitimate, objective rationale. In fact, there is no requirement in the law to give the City any portion of the SPLOST. After all, SPLOST projects accomplished by the County benefit citizens who live in the city as much as they benefit citizens living outside the City. How Can This Be?Why would the Board of Commissioners settle for such a lopsided proportion of the next SPLOST? To understand why, I think one only has to consider which County Commission candidates were supported by the City leadership during the last election. Those candidates are now County Commissioners! Voter PowerObviously this 15% SPLOST split between the City and the County is ridiculous! I will not vote for another Forsyth County Special Local Option Sales Tax with this condition, and I urge Forsyth County citizens to refuse the tax until the Board of Commissioners produces a fair share split of the tax.
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